Froogle

Started by Nathan - AsSeenOnTVChannel.com, July 18, 2006, 01:04:59 PM

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Nathan - AsSeenOnTVChannel.com

I am trying to setup a Froogle feed (or atleast an export from SM). I started with the standard export and have managed to customize it a bit. Where I am stuck is on a description (as we use html in our caption field for the description) and the label (list of words relating to the product). What does everyone else do? Do you create a table and just update it occassionally manually making changes?

One thought I had was to have custom fields in the product database of SM. It would have to be on another page (tab) with alt. description (where I can write one without html) and another field for label. I think Froogle is a no brainer as it's free advertising. What are people's thoughts and experiences with Froogle and Google Base (the uploading engine)?

Thanking you in advance,

Nathan...
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Nathan Freedman
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Fashionpartz

http://base.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=27885&query=html+descriptions&topic=0&type=f

You must have some kind text in your product descriptions, your HTML will be ignored with google base.

We have meta tag's for each our items listed in our descriptions as well as other HTML to display pictures. Froogle base accepted it but did not display them. As long as you have some text in your descriptions I think you are safe.

My suggestion: input any random text in your descriptions, submit you feed post your items on froogle ASAP. Then fine tune your feed later.

Froogle is free advertising and very powerful at that. All merchants should be taking advantage while it's still free or untill everyone finds out and figures how to use it.



Nathan - AsSeenOnTVChannel.com

Ok. So I what I am using the export for is to help build the "master froogle feed". Since we only have a handful of products I can do it manually but SM atleast helps me get the basics into my "master froogle feed". I noticed that the label is only 40 characters long so I am going to use my top searched keywords for the product.

David -  I would like to keep this in SM so my suggestion still stands for an alternate description field, Froogle Label field (limited to 40 characters) and to have a date format compatible with google base (read Froogle) YYYY-MM-DD (eg. 2010-12-31).

Since this is deamed to be cheap (read free) advertising I do consider it to be important. Maybe we could have a few others pipe up here so we are not missing anything. Fashionpartz - Wouldn't a proper feed be easier to do from SM then maintaining a seperate feed, especially when prices change. And Fashionpartz can you send me your url. I would love to see what you have done on your website for marketing since we don't compete with each other online.

Nathan...
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Nathan - AsSeenOnTVChannel.com

Another update. I found out that Google doesn't like the feed to have carriage returns (blank lines). Another good reason for a seperate entry in the product database. Will have to see how much traffic/business I get from this source.

Nathan...
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qbsrox

Nathan,

Please keep us updated .... I don't use this, but have clients that do and would love to hear how it's working out with the SuperManager!

Thanks,
Rox
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qbsrox

Fashion,

Good suggestion!

And Free is always a good thing...lololol!

Rox
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Nathan - AsSeenOnTVChannel.com

Just set up the feed and already 8 visitors. I am sure this will increase once we are on there for a bit longer. Can't figure out how companies get rated. Any ideas?

Nathan...
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David Johns

Nathan,

The data can be exported as you wanted it using "order_date[%Y-%m-%d]".  There really isn't a way to limit the number of characters on the description.  You could take the file generated by SuperManager into excel and use a =LEFT(<Cell w/desc>, 40) function on the description, then copy-paste special "values" overtop of the description column.

Thanks,
David
SuperManager Support
info@thesupermanager.com

Nathan - AsSeenOnTVChannel.com

Hi Everyone,

Maybe if we get enough interest in a special Froogle Description field we can get it added to the list of features for future releases. Who else would like to see this feature?

Also I think I got the date thing figured out. I just export the date in the correct format for the expiry date so it would be 2010-12-31 for all products. It was excel that was auto-formatting it back to something else.

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David Johns

Nathan,

We are planning to add a limitted description field for you.  I just wanted to make sure - it is the description, not the caption that you want to have clipped, right?  From my experience the caption is generally the longer one.  I'm sure you could have descriptions longer than 40 characters as well.  Just wanted to make sure before releasing it.

Thanks,
David
SuperManager Support
info@thesupermanager.com

Nathan - AsSeenOnTVChannel.com

Hi David,

My thinking is that is would be a text field only found in the SM as it is custom to only Google Base (Froogle's new engine). The limitation for this field is 65,536 characters but I don't think I need it quite that long. I am probably just going to copy and paste the text description into it but also modify it a bit so it can hopefully come up in the top results.

I hope this helps.

Nathan...
Nathan Freedman
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David Johns

Nathan,

I misunderstood what you were wanting.  I thought you just wanted a variable code that clipped the product description to 40 characters to export for froogle.  What you really needed was another non-yahoo field that you could populate?  In the 1.1.2.2 beta I have added 2 custom variables.  You can use one for harm codes and the other for descriptions.  How does that sound?  We are alpha testing it now.  I will let you know when it is ready.

Thanks,
David
SuperManager Support
info@thesupermanager.com

Nathan - AsSeenOnTVChannel.com

Sounds perfect. The hard code is just a one line entry (approx 12 characters long) and the text should be a multi line entry (Google seems to read the entire description to pull the ranking from). Once it's on there I will try and write a bit of a guide on getting listed on Froogle as everyone should do it as it is free (for now).

Thanks much,

Nathan....
Nathan Freedman
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EricE

Hello Nathan,

We have been uploading our two Y-Stores to Froogle for over a year now and it has been very profitable for us. We rank very well in Froogle and our conversion rate is excellent.

Unfortunately I cannot provide too much information in relation to using the Google Base.  We tried a number of times to upload our database and always had problems. I finally subscribed to an automated service that uploads our store DB each time the store is published and or on a pre-defined schedule.  We pay $.30 / per database upload.

Eric
Serial Entrepreneur

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